Many of us computer majors will choose to go to first-tier cities after graduation and join big factories as much as possible. After working in big factories for several years to gain projects and experience, we will go back to second-tier cities. Of course, we can quickly accumulate certain savings in big factories.

As they reach their mid-30s and have their own families, product managers want to join the system for objective reasons such as stability and health. For Internet product managers, state-owned enterprises are the first choice.

Coincidentally, a product manager who recently moved from Shenzhen to Chengdu talked with me over the weekend. I heard his story about a product manager of a state-owned enterprise, which I thought was very typical.

1. To find the right pit, we should first know the classification of state-owned enterprises

In order to make everyone have a clearer understanding, first of all, I want to popularize the classification of state-owned enterprises. Different state-owned enterprises have different requirements for product managers, and the income provided for product managers and the working mode of product managers are also very different.

The current classification of state-owned enterprises I found on the Internet is as follows

First-class state-owned enterprises: super-large state-owned monopoly enterprises or policy banks. Such as: CNPC, Sinopec, CNOOC, China Mobile, China Nonferrous Metals, China Minmetals, China Development Bank, Export-Import Bank… Note: Generally speaking, the headquarters is very high, and there is a certain gap between branches or subsidiaries. Fresh graduates headquarters of the treatment is simply the ideal level. The advantage, of course, is that the super-large headquarters are generally in Beijing. Its China development bank and sinopec headquarters treatment should be second to none.

Second-class state-owned enterprises: large state-owned enterprises under the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission. “China” starts with this type: Sinotextile, Sinochem, China Construction, Sinosteel, Cosco, CofCO, CICC, China Life.

Note: in fact, these enterprises and the above “first-class” there is no substantial gap, but in the fresh graduates just entered the company may need a certain amount of time to accumulate. Of course, the remuneration is quasi-ideal.

Third class state-owned enterprises: other large state-owned enterprises subordinate to SASAC or other commissions, research institutes, and the four big state-owned banks. Such as: China light industry import and export, Chinese overseas personnel services, CyTS…… Bank of China, Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, Agricultural Bank of China, Construction Bank,

Fourth class state-owned enterprises: local cities local provincial large state-owned enterprises and some other government ministerial level all large and medium-sized state-owned enterprises. Jingyi, BOE, Putian, Capital Airport ………… These companies are still very good.

Fifth class state-owned enterprises: state-owned enterprises in second – and third-tier cities. State-owned enterprises in these places, most of the fresh graduates are very painful to go. State-owned enterprises, basically backward management, poor treatment. (Also excluding the related enterprises of the top five enterprises). The people who say they are poorly paid and have nothing to do online and then blame state-owned enterprises are mostly from the Midwest.

Therefore, I suggest choosing the first three of the above five types of state-owned enterprises. Otherwise, not all state-owned enterprises are good ones, and not all state-owned enterprises pay the highest provident fund and social security, which should be differentiated.

2. What kind of people work as product managers in state-owned enterprises

If you are looking at the opportunity, I first suggest that you think clearly about the following questions before you choose to join a state-owned enterprise.

1. Do you own a house in the area where you work or have enough income to relocate for the next 4 years

2. Who are you on the inside? Do you want a stable job, or do you want a lot of fighting

3. Whether you have a stable side business or other passive income in the coming year

Do you like being a product manager?

5. Do you have any religion?

Restricted the system of the state-owned enterprises, to join the state welfare treatment is good, but it will not always get its hands on wages is too high, because of the need to absorb excellent talents in state-owned enterprises, often appear upside down, such as from Internet companies added to the product managers in state-owned enterprises, natural need to increase the salary to absorb the excellent product manager.

In particular, state-owned enterprises in the IT industry or those with recruitment IT functional departments will not have too low salaries. If they are too low, no one will come, and other positions will be taken because the professional level of the industry is not high. For example, my friend’s annual pre-tax income in Shenzhen is 400,000 yuan, and his comprehensive salary after returning to Chengdu and entering a state-owned enterprise is 300,000 yuan, although there is a discount. But he told me his working hours were cut in half. I used to work 10+ hours a day, but now I can leave at 5:30 every day.

My friend needs to rent a house in Shenzhen, but he comes back to Chengdu to live in his own house, so the cost of rent is also gone.

However, I know that today’s state-owned enterprises do not always work overtime like this. The job of product manager belongs to the product RESEARCH and development department, so it also needs to release and launch versions. For example, the position of operation and maintenance may stay up all night.

3. Is there a future as a product manager in a state-owned enterprise

A lot of people say to state-owned enterprises to do product manager is pension, there is no future, even in the resume write XX state-owned enterprise work experience is deducted points.

But the product manager who entered the state-owned enterprise told me that the answer is not. He never heard a bad story about any of the product managers he worked with who had left for another job. It’s also true that people go to big factories or become senior executives at startups.

The main reason is that you still have value.

When you are a product manager in a state-owned enterprise, you are still working on the basis of product manager skills. For example, if there is a product line, you need to take the lead from demand to launch. State-owned enterprises has its own r&d center, have their own business center, so the former will be more focused on the product manager’s job, such as demand research, prototype design, requirements documents, focus on product iteration index, the tools you use in this department or process will be almost the same and the Internet, that is to say you work in a few years you still competitive,

However, for the latter business sector, because the business of your state-owned enterprise is mostly insured with monopoly resources and private business, the business is difficult to copy, so it is difficult for product managers to go out to find the corresponding product manager position.

Do product managers in state-owned enterprises, often have the benefits of a pre-emptive strike, especially in the technology at the bottom of the solutions, application solutions, business model, product manager of the state-owned enterprise is often the first rolled out, in the technical scheme under the ground is often based on the national strategy, the national demand, even owe, also we need to promote the application of this technology.

Even if the products made by state-owned enterprises are not produced, new industries and trends will emerge in the process of product development, bringing benefits to the upstream and downstream supply chains.

There is resource scarcity behind state-owned enterprises, and ordinary private enterprises can’t get this part of resources. Therefore, product managers of state-owned enterprises are also encouraged to job-hop in the future, and they also have advantages in technology and resources. Once, this friend met a product manager of a state-owned enterprise who was hired in bulk by a private enterprise. The private enterprise was mainly engaged in the data system of water resources, while this friend happened to be in charge of the products related to water system in a state-owned enterprise. Because the business is the same and you need to use the same application scenarios, you are needed.

So whether it’s business or development, product managers have a future, but revenue doesn’t. The income of state-owned enterprises must depend on the salary and treatment determined in social recruitment. Once in, unless jump a few posts, otherwise the so-called income is not too big difference.

Therefore, in state-owned enterprises, it is generally job-hopping to complete the improvement of salary. Campus recruiters tend to pay less, while social recruiters tend to pay more.

3. What is the safety that product managers of state-owned enterprises should pay attention to?

Depending on the type of state-owned enterprise, a product manager in a state-owned enterprise attaches different importance to safety and compliance. My friend is in the first type of state-owned enterprise. Because of this safety regulation, even if the project makes money or even has a good prospect, it will not pass the project as long as it does not pass the safety of the company or even has the hidden danger of inserting a side ball.

A class of state-owned enterprises is very important to the assessment of user complaints. Once the complaint rate increases, it will be directly linked to cash and performance.

As long as the security personnel and infrastructure are taken care of, you can only talk about business. Security and innovation must be parallel, and security here is not just security awareness or some security of some functional processes, must be deep into the bone marrow of the system. The security of personnel and server hardware mentioned above should be guaranteed in a unified manner.

Security includes content security, data security, system security, personnel security, which involves more than 60% of the knowledge of system operation and maintenance, as well as network policy, approval, work order process restrictions, resulting in a lot of uncertain factors in the online speed of products.

Port source limited access, content have security audit system and artificial review, and the system must have 7 * 24 hours after online operations, above all safety is not only safety related events, but to really after scanning, penetration testing, mail, to determine the relevant boss, the signature of the leadership, etc., to complete the system of online, users can come into contact with.

All products that users contact must have corresponding emergency plans, that is, to be a product manager in a state-owned enterprise. If you do not do the safety thing thoroughly, your product performance will not be shown, and you can only stay in PPT and prototype plans.

While the Internet the company’s product manager, breakthrough business, functional, and business models, as long as the guarantee within the laws and regulations, and other security measures are in the process of product normal operations, according to the business through safety cost, more time and energy to complete safety layout, safety layout has not stay here in the application layer of the work, So a lot of the knowledge I mentioned earlier is operations related.

Safety is the first liability insurance at work

My friend once launched a product, which was incubated in a state-owned enterprise. As a result, the loopholes were detected by the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, and the whole company issued a warning, which almost destroyed the company’s assessment result of that year. Once the company performance is held accountable, the corresponding company bonus, department bonus and so on will be punished.

Product manager of the state-owned enterprise overall do have plenty of time, so the gap between people is how at other times, some people will choose to ascend degree, some people will choose to go off work to play games, and for many people who do the Internet, time is a scarce products, because the companies do a product manager for a long time, time is buried in the product, No time for me.

Too much time in the office, too little room for lateral growth and resource development, so product managers can make more money depending on how you spend your time.

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